Ptychochromis oligacanthus finally spawned

chriscoli

Administrator
This pair of Ptychochromis oligacanthus has been thinking about spawning for months.....they finally decided to do it. In fact, they're still going....

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jonclark96

Past CCA President
Awesome!

I'm guessing that the storm has a lot to do with it. My a. longimanus have wigglers and my p. sp. catemaco just got done covering a rock with eggs.
 

mchambers

Former CCA member
Cool! Didn't you get them from Sam? As I recall, he had trouble raising the fry, so that will be your next challenge.
 

rsretep

Members
Awesome!

I'm guessing that the storm has a lot to do with it. My a. longimanus have wigglers and my p. sp. catemaco just got done covering a rock with eggs.

Yes the storm got three of my pair "in the mood" julidochromis transcriptus,lepediolamprologus hequi, and archocentrus centrarchus
 

festaedan

potamotrygon fan
Awesome!

I'm guessing that the storm has a lot to do with it. My a. longimanus have wigglers and my p. sp. catemaco just got done covering a rock with eggs.

It might work for me too. One of my female quatepeques and my biggest male are all colored up and sticking by a small flowerpot constantly cleaning it and attacking tankmates. Fingers crossed.
 

chriscoli

Administrator
Cool! Didn't you get them from Sam? As I recall, he had trouble raising the fry, so that will be your next challenge.

Yep, these are one of Sam's pairs.

I'm not sure he had trouble....I thnk he didn't really give it a try in a dedicated tank. He had 3 pairs in a 40B and there was just no peace and quiet to raise a brood.

I have the one pair in a 29 with one Oto, 3 Farlowellas, and a handful of brand new baby blue-tailed goodeids (I tried to remove them, but they were just too darn quick and I didn't want to overly bother the Ptychochromis).

I THINK this should be a good tank for them to give raising the brood a try. My once concern is that from what I've read....in general....Madagascar cichlids tend to freak out and eat their eggs/wigglers when disturbed.....and this tank is right next to my desk. So, I might be too much of a bother to them with my regular comings and goings, but we'll see. But I'm also wary of things that say stuff like "Madagascar cichlids tend to (fill in the blank)"....just seems too general a statement to apply to the whole group.
 

chriscoli

Administrator
Yes the storm got three of my pair "in the mood" julidochromis transcriptus,lepediolamprologus hequi, and archocentrus centrarchus

Fantastic!


It might work for me too. One of my female quatepeques and my biggest male are all colored up and sticking by a small flowerpot constantly cleaning it and attacking tankmates. Fingers crossed.

Congrats, let us know how they do!
 

chriscoli

Administrator
Another few pics I took with my good camera tonight....

Top pic is the female, bottom pic is the male. The male has changed color from his usual various shades of gray with lavender and turquoise highlights to having quite a bit of red in the fins (not showing up in the pic) and a peach iridescent cast to his body. I'm impressed by the color range that these fish can express....I know how they are feeling the instant I walk into the room.

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chriscoli

Administrator
Regular DC area water is fine for them. They like pH in the 7s, and slightly hard water. They've been pretty easy to keep happy. They do dig a bit, so although plants aren't out of the question, if the plants happen to be in their way they'll get dug up or buried.
 

mchambers

Former CCA member
I thought

Yep, these are one of Sam's pairs.

I'm not sure he had trouble....I thnk he didn't really give it a try in a dedicated tank. He had 3 pairs in a 40B and there was just no peace and quiet to raise a brood.

I have the one pair in a 29 with one Oto, 3 Farlowellas, and a handful of brand new baby blue-tailed goodeids (I tried to remove them, but they were just too darn quick and I didn't want to overly bother the Ptychochromis).

I THINK this should be a good tank for them to give raising the brood a try. My once concern is that from what I've read....in general....Madagascar cichlids tend to freak out and eat their eggs/wigglers when disturbed.....and this tank is right next to my desk. So, I might be too much of a bother to them with my regular comings and goings, but we'll see. But I'm also wary of things that say stuff like "Madagascar cichlids tend to (fill in the blank)"....just seems too general a statement to apply to the whole group.

I thought Sam told us at his liquidation sale that the fry didn't eat well and eventually disappeared. He wasn't sure why. Maybe I am remembering a different fish?

Or maybe you'll need to try a variety of foods?
 

chriscoli

Administrator
Hmmmm, perhaps, but I don't think he gave it a thorough looking-at either.

But, this is one of the reasons that I got some of the various live cultures going. Copepods are supposed to help the fussy-fry dwindle. The theory is that the copepods may provide something (digestive enzymes is one theory) that has not yet developed in the very young fry.
 

chriscoli

Administrator
Definitely have some development going on with those eggs. Mom and Dad are very diligent fanners. They're now taking turns digging pits.....I thought I had seen the worst of the pit digging before spawning....it doesn't even compare to what they're doing now!

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dogofwar

CCA Members
Very nice!

I think it's a great plan to have some non-threatening fish in the tank: It keeps the parents diligent while posing no real threat to the fry. I have a pair in my 180g with a bunch of acaras, sevs, etc. and they spawn but can't defend the eggs. I've also spawned them in their own tank but not enough perceived threat to keep them on point.

I've kept the fry going up to about a week or so (on golden pearls) but seem to lose a bunch after then. These are wonderful and really unique fish!

Matt
 
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