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Ok here is my first draft... please speak up now if you have ANY issues, suggestions, problems, complaints, ideas.... you get the idea ;)




10 Points

Old World

Alticorpus
Astatoreochromis
Astatotilpia
Aulonocara
Chilotilapia
Corematodus
Cynotilapia
Genyochromis
Gephyrochromis
Haplochromis sp.
Haplochromis **
Hemichromis bimaculatus
Hemichromis thomasi
Hemihaplochromis **
Iodotropheus sprengerae
Labidochromis
Labeotropheus**
Lamprologus brevis
Lamprologus multifasciatus
Lamprologus similis
Lamprologus sp. margarae
Neochromis
Neolamprologus tetracanthus
Neolamprologus brichardi
Neolamprologus pulcher
Lethrinops
Lichnochromis
Melanochromis
Pelvicachromis kribensis
Petrotilapia
Pseudocrenilabrus philander
Pseudotropheus/Metriaclima
Pundamilia
Pyxichromis
Thoracochromis
Tilapia
Trematocranus

NEW WORLD

Aequidens sp. (The Blue and Green Acaras)
Archocentrus centrarchus
Bujurquina sp.
Cichlasoma sp. (The Black Acaras)
Cryptoheros altoflavus
Cryptoheros myrnae
Cryptoheros nanoluteus
Cryptoheros nigrofasciatus
Cryptoheros panamensis
Cryptoheros sajica
Cryptoheros septemfasciatus
Cryptoheros sp. "Honduras Red Point"
Cryptoheros spilurus
Geophagus sp. **
Guinacara sp.
Gymnogeophagus sp. **
Herichthys carpintis
Herichthys cyanoguttatus
Herotilapia multispinossa
Krobia sp.
Laetacara sp. (curviceps, dorsigerus)
Nannacara sp.
Neetroplus nematopus
Rocio octofasciata
Thorichthys meeki

20 points

Old world

Altolamprologus calvus
Altolamprologus compressiceps
Altolamprologus fasciatus
Aristochromis macrochir
Aulonocranus
Callochromis
Cardiopharynx
Chalinochromis
Chromidotilapia
Copadichromis
Ctenochromis horei
Cyprichromis
Didmidiochromis
Diplotoxidon
Docimodus
Eretmodus
Grammatotria
Greenwoodochromis
Julidochromis
Haplochromis ahli
Haplochromis bethicola
Hemichromis elongates
Hemichromis fasciatus
Interochromis
Katria
Labeotropheus marmalade cat
Labeotropheus trewavasae orange x orange
Lamprologus (lake species) **
Lepidiolamprologus
Limnochromis
Limnotilapia
Nanochromis
Neolamprolgus **
Nimbochromis
Mbipia lutea
Microdontochromis
Orthochromis
Paracyprichromis
Paratilapia
Pelvicachromis**
Ptychochromis
Ptychochromoides
Rhamphochromis
Spathodus
Steatocranus
Tanganicodus
Telmatochromis
Tropheops
Tylochromis
Tyrannochromis
Variabilichromis
Xenotilapia spilopterus
Xenotilapia flavipinnis

New World

Australoheros ('Cichlasoma' facetum )
Amphilophus citrinellus
Amphilophus labiatus
Amphilophus longimanus
Amphilophus macracanthus
Amphilophus trimaculatum
Apistogramma sp.
Apistogrammoides
exCichlasoma altomaculatum
exCichlasoma salvini
exCichlasoma uropthalmus
Cleithacara maronii
Herichthys bartoni
Heros sp.
Hypselecara sp.
Hypsophrys nicaraguensis
Mesonauta festivum
Microgeophagus altispinosa
Microgeophagus ramerezi
Parachromis freidrichsthalli
Parachromis loiselli
Parachromis managuensis
Parachromis motaguensis
Paratheraps bifasciatum
Paratheraps breidorhi
Paratheraps guttalatus
Paratheraps hartwegi
Paratheraps synspilus
Paratheraps zonatus
Pterophyllum scalare (1 domestic variety)
Thorichthys affinis
Thorichthys aureum
Thorichthys maculipinnis
Thorichthys helleri
Thorichthys pasionis
Thorichthys socolofi
Vieja argentea
Vieja heterospila
Vieja regani

30 Points

Old World

Asprotilapia
Baileychromis
Bathybates
Cunningtonia
Cyphotilapia
Ectodus
Etroplus
Gnathochromis
Haplotaxodon
Hemibates stenosoma
Lastredea
Lamprologus (all riverine)
Lobochilotes
Neolamprologus nigriventris
Neolamprologus sexfasciatus (gold)
Neolamprologus tretocephalus
Petrochromis trewavasae
Petrochromis famula
Plecodus
Serranochromis
Simochromis
Trematocara
Tropheus
Xenotilapia **

New World

Amphilophus alfari
Amphilophus altifrons
Amphilophus amarillo
Amphilophus bussingi
Amphilophus calobrensis
Amphilophus diquis
Amphilophus hogaboomorus
Amphilophus lyonsi
Amphilophus margaritifer
Amphilophus nourissati
Amphilophus rhytisma
Amphilophus robertsoni
Amphilophus rostratus
Amphilophus sagittae
Amphilophus xiloaensis
Amphilophus zaliosus
Archocentrus spinosissimus
Astronatus sp.
Batrachops sp.
Caquetaia sp.
Chuco godmanni
Chuco intermedium
Chuco microthalmus
Cichla sp.
exCichlasome Beani
exCichlasome Bocourti
exCichlasoma festae
exCichlasoma grammodes
exCichlasoma islantum
exCichlasoma ornatum
exCichlasoma tuyrense
Crenicara sp.
Crenicichla sp.
Dicrossus sp.
Geophagus crassilabrus
Geophagus surinamensis var.
Gymnogeophagus gymnogenys
Gymnogeophagus labiatum
Gymnogeophagus lacustrus
Herichthys deppii
Herichthys labridens
Herichthys minkleyi
Herichthys pantostictus
Herichthys steindachneri
Nandopsis haitiensis
Nandopsis ramsdeni
Nandopsis tetracanthus
Parachromis dovii
Paraneetroplus bulleri
Paraneetroplus gibbiceps
Paraneetroplus neubuliferum
Paraneetroplus omonti
Paratheraps fenestratus
Paratheraps melanurus
Petenia splendida
Pterophyllum scalare
Satanoperca leucosticta
Satanoperca pappaterra
Symphysodon sp. (1 domestic, 2 F0 wild)
Taeniacara candidi
Teleocichla sp.
Theraps coeruleus
Theraps irregulare
Theraps lentiginosus
Theraps wesseli
Thorichthys callolepis
Tomacichla asfraci
Tomacichla seiboldi
Tomocichla tuba
Uaru amphiacanthoides
Vieja maculicauda
Vieja pearsi
Vieja ufermanni

50 Points

Old World

Benthochromis
Boulengerochromis
Cyathopharynx
Neolamprologus sexfascitus (blue)
Ophthalmochromis
Paretroplus
Perissodus
Petrochromis **
Reganochromis
Triglachromis otostigma


New World

Acarichthys heckelii
Acaronia sp.
Biotoecus sp.
Biotodoma sp.
Chaetobranchopsis sp.
Chaetobranchus sp.
Hoplarchus psittacum
Pterophyllum altum
Retroculus sp.
Satanoperca acuticeps
Satanoperca daemon
Satanoperca Lilith
Symphysodon discus Heckel

NOTE: ** = Not All Species
 
Spine

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Sarah,
Thorichthys ellioti has been changed to Thorichthys maculipinnis

New World

Cich. Facetum
Amphilophus citrinellum
Amphilophus labiatum
Amphilophus longimanus
Amphilophus macracanthus
Apistogramma sp.
Cleithacara maronii
Heros appendiculatus
Heros severum
Hypselecara temporalis
Mesonauta festivum
Microgeophagus altispinossa
Microgeophagus ramerezi
Nandopsis atromaculatum
Nandopsis bartoni
Nandopsis freidrichsthalli
Nandopsis loiselli
Nandopsis managuense
Nandopsis motaguense
Nandopsis salvini
Nandopsis trimaculatum
Nandopsis uropthalmus
Theraps argentea
Theraps bifasciatum
Theraps breidorhi
Theraps guttalatum
Theraps hartwegi
Theraps heterospilus
Theraps intermedium
Theraps nicaraguense
Theraps panamense
Theraps regani
Theraps synspilus
Theraps zonatum
Thorichthys affinus
Thorichthys aureum
Thorichthys ellioti ..................................Thorichthys maculipinnis
Thorichthys helleri
Thorichthys pasionis
Thorichthys socolofi
 
JustRon

JustRon

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This may be hard to read, and I quit along the way.

10 Points

Old World

Alticorpus **
Astatoreaochromis Miss-Spelled – change to - Astatoreochromis
Chilotilapia
Corematodus
Cynotilapia
Genyochromis
Gephyrochromis **

Haplochromis (Victorian) WOULD CHANGE NAME to Haplochromine types, includes ------------Haplochromis sp., Astatotilpia, pundamilia, pyxichromis, thoracochromis, neochromis

Haplochromis **
Hemichromis bimaculatus
Hemichromis thomasi
Hemihaplochromis**
Iodotropheus sprengerae
Labidochromis
Labeotropheus** ALL Types
Lamprologus brevis
Lamprologus multifasciatus
Lamprologus similis
Lamprologus margarae
Lamprologus meeli
Lamprologus tetracanthus
Neolamprologus brichardi DIDNT THIS combine with Pulcher, or the other way around?
Neolamprologus pulcher
Lethrinops
Lichnochromis
Melanochromis**
Pelvicachromis**
Petrotilapia
Pseudocrenilabrus philander
Pseudotropheus/Metriaclima
Telmatochromis thysia**
Tilapia
Trematocranus

20 points

Altolamprologus calvus
Altolamprologus compressiceps
Aristochromis macrochir
Aulonocara maylandi Move to 10 points - combine to all Aulonocara
Aulonocara ussiyi Move to 10 points – combine to all Aulonocara
Aulonocranus
Callochromis
Cardiopharynx
Chalinochromis
Chromidotilapia
Ctenochromis horei
Cyprichromis
Diplotoxidon
Docimodus
Eretmodus
Grammatotria
Julidochromis
Haplochromis ahli RENAMED – Sciaenochromis ahli – Move to 10 points
Haplochromis bethicola
Haplochromis borley RENAMED to Copadichromis – combine to all Copadichromis
Haplochromis kiwingi RENAMED Didmidiochromis
Haplochromis linni RENAMED Nimbochromis
Haplochromis macrostoma RENAMED Tyrannochromis
Haplochromis pfefferi NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS
Etroplus maculates MOVE TO 30 points, combine all etroplines
Hemichromis elongates
Hemichromis fasciatus
Nanochromis
Labeotropheus marmalade cat REMOVE
Labeotropheus trewavasae orange x orange REMOVE
Lamprologus/Neolamprolgus (lake species) **
Limnochromis
Limnotilapia
Orthochromis

ADD ______ Paratilapia
ADD ______ Ptychochromis
ADD ______ Ptychochromoides and Katria/Katria

Rhamphochromis
Spathodus
Steatocranus
Tanganicodus
Tylochromis
Xenotilapia spilopterus
Xenotilapia flavipinnis

30 Points

Asprotilapia
Cunningtonia
Lobochilotes MOVE to 50 poijnts
Cyphotilapia
Ectodus
Enantiopus Thought these were all xenotilapia now, except albini, which I don’t think is ever imported DELETE????
Etroplus suratensis
Hemibates stenosoma
Lamprologus fasciatus
Lamprologus ornatipinnis
Lamprologus sexfasciatus (gold)
Lamprologus tretocephalus
Lastredea
Lamprologus (all riverine)
Limnochromis auritus MOVE to 20 points with Limnochromis
Neolamprologus nigriventris
Petrochromis trewavasae

Reganochromis
Serranochromis
Simochromis
Trematocara
Tropheus brichardi All TROPHEUS combine
Tropheus duboisi All TROPHEUS combine
Tropheus moori All TROPHEUS combine
Tropheus polli All TROPHEUS combine
Xenotilapia **

50 Points

Benthochromis
Boulengerochromis
Cyathopharynx furcifer MOVE to 30 points
Cyathopharynx foai DON’T know this fish, RENAMED Furcifer as above I believe, combine
Lamprologus sexfascitus (blue) Move to 30 points
Haplotaxodon microlepus RECLASS to All Haplotaxodon, move to 30 points
Haplotaxodon tricoti RENAMED Benthochromis
Ophthalmochromis
ADD __________ Paretroplus
Perissodus
Petrochromis **
Triglachromis otostigma



NOTE: ** = Not All Species
 
JustRon

JustRon

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If that was too confusing, just disregard, I got confused along the way, didn't even look at the New World
 
longstocking

longstocking

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OK most were changed to your suggestions Ron. Please don't give up on me Ron... I need help !! lol

The Lamprologus sexfascitus (blue) (I don't agree with moving them. I think 2 or 3 people in the world have bred these.... if any at all)

Cyathopharynx foai DON’T know this fish, RENAMED Furcifer as above I believe, combine ( scientists are still argueing about this... to my knowledge... have any papers to show me? )

Neolamprologus brichardi DIDNT THIS combine with Pulcher, or the other way around? ( Yes genetically it's been prooven but scientists haven't agreed yet... still a huge debate on this one... stupid I know but brichards name is involved)
 
longstocking

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Where should they go francine?

Please really look over this hun.... I'm so lost when it comes to new world I don't even know where to start.
I pretty much copied Ohio's list when it came to the new worlds.
 
mscichlid

mscichlid

Founder
I'll have to go through New World. Do you have the list in Word? Could you send just New World to me? It's hard trying to read it by posts. (That is if you don't mind, of course <BG>)
 
JustRon

JustRon

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Cyathopharynx foai DON’T know this fish, RENAMED Furcifer as above I believe, combine ( scientists are still argueing about this... to my knowledge... have any papers to show me? )

Ectodus foai Vaillant, 1899 valid name = Cyathopharynx furcifer

Another idea would be to combine the mbuna into just that, then list,, ,pseudotrpoheus, iodotropheus, metriaclima, melanochromis, labeotropheus, labidochromis, etc...


I will cut and paste the old world after you get a few more suggestions and then take another stab at it. More nomencltoral changes than I was aware of have occured.


Lamprologus sexfasciatus and tretocephalus changed to neolamps I believe. I also wouldnt separate the color morph for the breeding program.

If you wish to leave them in the 50 point mark that is cool. I need to start looking to get some then.
 
mscichlid

mscichlid

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I'm in the process of going through the New World list and applying the points to the species.

North America
Herichthys



Central America
Amphilophus
Archocentrus
Chuco
Cryptoheros
exCichlasoma
Herotilapia
Hypsophrys
Nandopsis
Neetroplus
Parachromis
Paraneetroplus
Paratheraps
Petenia
Rocio
Theraps
Thorichthys
Tomocichla
Vieja


South America
Acarichthys
Acaronia
Aequidens
Apistogramma
Apistogrammoides
Astronotus
Australoheros
Biotodoma
Biotoecus
Bujurquina
Caquetaia
Chaetobranchopsis
Chaetobranchus
Cichla
Cichlasoma
Cleithracara
Crenicara
Crenicichla
Dicrossus
Geophagus
Guianacara
Gymnogeophagus
Heroina
Heros
Hoplarchus
Hypselecara
Ivanacara
Krobia
Laetacara
Mazarunia
Mesonauta
Mikrogeophagus
Nannacara
Pterophyllum
Retroculus
Satanoperca
Symphysodon
Taeniacara
Tahuantinsuyoa
Teleocichla
Uaru
 
mscichlid

mscichlid

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NEW WORLD CICHLIDS
North America
Herichthys

Central America
Amphilophus
Archocentrus
Chuco
Cryptoheros
exCichlasoma
Herotilapia
Hypsophrys
Nandopsis
Neetroplus
Parachromis
Paraneetroplus
Paratheraps
Petenia
Rocio
Theraps
Thorichthys
Tomocichla
Vieja

South America
Acarichthys
Acaronia
Aequidens
Apistogramma
Apistogrammoides
Astronotus
Australoheros
Biotodoma
Biotoecus
Bujurquina
Caquetaia
Chaetobranchopsis
Chaetobranchus
Cichla
Cichlasoma
Cleithracara
Crenicara
Crenicichla
Dicrossus
Geophagus
Guianacara
Gymnogeophagus
Heroina
Heros
Hoplarchus
Hypselecara
Ivanacara
Krobia
Laetacara
Mazarunia
Mesonauta
Mikrogeophagus
Nannacara
Pterophyllum
Retroculus
Satanoperca
Symphysodon
Taeniacara
Tahuantinsuyoa
Teleocichla
Uaru


CATEGORY A (10 Points) NEW WORLD
Aequidens sp. (The Blue and Green Acaras)
Archocentrus centrarchus
Archocentrus nigrofasciatum
Archocentrus octofasciatum
Archocentrus sajica
Archocentrus septemfasciatum
Archocentrus spilurum
Bujurquina sp.
Cichlasoma sp. (The Black Acaras)
Geophagus brasiliensis var.
Geophagus pellegrini
Geophagus steindachneri
Guinacara sp.
Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Gymnogeophagus meridionalis
Gymnogeophagus rhabdotus
Herichthys carpintas
Herichthys cyanoguttatum
Herotilapia multispinossa
Krobia sp.
Laetacara sp. (curviceps, dorsigerus)
Nannacara sp.
Neetroplus nematopus
Thorichthys meeki

CATEGORY B (20 points) NEW WORLD

Australoheros (Cichlasoma’ facetum )
Amphilophus citrinellum
Amphilophus labiatum
Amphilophus longimanus
Amphilophus macracanthus
Apistogramma sp.
Apistogrammoides
Cleithacara maronii
Heros appendiculatus
Heros severum
Heros notatus
Hypselecara temporalis
Mesonauta festivum
Microgeophagus altispinossa
Microgeophagus ramerezi
Nandopsis atromaculatum
Nandopsis bartoni
Nandopsis freidrichsthalli
Nandopsis loiselli
Nandopsis managuense
Nandopsis motaguense
Nandopsis salvini
Nandopsis trimaculatum
Nandopsis uropthalmus
Pterophyllum scalare
Theraps argentea
Theraps bifasciatum
Theraps breidorhi
Theraps guttalatum
Theraps hartwegi
Theraps heterospilus
Theraps intermedium
Theraps nicaraguense
Theraps panamense
Theraps regani
Theraps synspilus
Theraps zonatum
Thorichthys affinus
Thorichthys aureum
Thorichthys ellioti
Thorichthys helleri
Thorichthys pasionis
Thorichthys socolofi

CATEGORY C (30 Points) NEW WORLD

Amphilophus alfari
Amphilophus altifrons
Amphilophus calobrense
Amphilophus diquis
Amphilophus lyonsi
Amphilophus rhytisma
Amphilophus robertsoni
Amphilophus rostratum
Amphilophus tuyrense
Amphilophus zaliosum
Archocentrus spinosissimus
Astronatus sp.
Batrachops sp.
Caquetaia sp.
Chuco sp.
Crenicara sp.
Crenicichla sp.
Dicrossus
Geophagus crassilabrus
Geophagus surinamensis var.
Gymnogeophagus gymnogenys
Gymnogeophagus labiatum
Gymnogeophagus lacustrus
Herichthys bocourti
Herichthys labridens
Herichthys minkleyi
Herichthys pearsi
Nandopsis beani
Nandopsis dovii
Nandopsis festae
Nandopsis grammodes
Nandopsis haitiensis
Nandopsis islantum
Nandopsis ornatum
Nandopsis pantostictum
Nandopsis steindachneri
Nandopsis tetracanthus
Nandopsis umbriferum
Paraneetroplus bulleri
Petenia splendida
Satanoperca leucosticta
Satanoperca pappaterra
Symphysodon sp.
Taeniacara candidi
Teleocichla sp.
Theraps coeruleus
Theraps fenestratum
Theraps gibbiceps
Theraps godmani
Theraps irregulare
Theraps maculicauda
Theraps melanurum
Therapsmicropthalmus
Theraps nebuliferum
Theraps omonti
Theraps seiboldi
Thorichthys callolepis
Tomocichla tuba
Uaru amphiacanthoides

CATEGORY D (50 Points) NEW WORLD
Acarichthys heckelii
Acaronia sp.
Biotecus sp.
Biotodoma sp.
Chaetobranchopsis sp.
Chaetobranchus sp.
Hoplarchus psittacum
Pterophyllum altum
Pterophyllum dumerelli
Retroculus sp.
Satanoperca acuticeps
Satanoperca daemon
Satanoperca Lilith
Symphysodon discus Heckel
 
longstocking

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Thanks Francine. I just copied your response into the original post. SOrry I didn't get back to you last night. Still need it in word?

Ron a lot of the "lamps" are neolampologus or Lepidiolamprologus now. I know I need to go through and fix it. Dont' worry about thoose. I think I'm pretty up to date on them.

The blue vs the golds. .... well I think I should keep it this way.... since many people have been able to breed the golds which is not the case with the blues. There is something different about them that makes them hard to breed... I don't know what though lol Never tried to breed them.

Edit: I've gone through and fixed quite a few of the old world. Added a bunch and put the new names on most if not all that needed it. Might have missed a couple.
 
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