Lake Barombi Mbo, Cameroon - Something a little different

dogofwar

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I'm a big fan of the fish from Lake Barombi, Mbo in Cameroon, which is a small crater lake with a bunch of endemic (forund nowhere else) species of cichlids.

Here's a great article by (future CCA speaker) Greg Steves on Barombi Mbo and some (bad) pictures of some of the fish I've kept over the years....

Matt

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dogofwar

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First pic is Saratherodon carroli (previously identified as linnelli).

Second is Pungu maclareni (and and baby Stomatepia mariae growing out with them). A Tilapia bythobates is also in the picture.

Third and Fourth are Konia eisentrauti (silver ones). 4th pic has a Stomatepia (pindu, I think)
 

dogofwar

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More...

First two are mature Stomatepia mariae (male in 1st and female in 2nd) - pushing 7-8"...

Third is a smaller S. mariae...

I have some nice pictures of Stomatepia pindu on a flash drive at work...will post after July 4th when I'm back :)

Matt

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dogofwar

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I currently keep:

Stomatepia pindu (bred them many times, but hard to strip. Currently have a female holding) - black darth vaderish fish

Stomatepia mariae - green darth vaderish fish

Saratherodon carolli - velvet black Tilapia (bred many times and I currently have grow outs)

Pungu maclareni - Yellow and black sponge-eater (bred a couple of times but won't hold to term).

Probably forgetting something!

These guys aren't the most colorful fish in the world (although truly BLACK fish are cool looking) but they're unique in behavior and looks. Some of my favorites.

Matt
 

dogofwar

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Oh, yeah - I got some real Myaka myaka from Dave (after growing out a group for 2 years that ended up not being what they were supposed to be)...

Matt
 

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I have a friend who just moved to Cameroon. I'll ask her if she knows about Lake Mofo.
 

dogofwar

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Most conversations about these guys are with myself!

Sorry guys - It's more that the forum seems to hang up when I try to post more than a few pics at a time...

I was re-reading the article and assumed that it would link itself osmotically :)

Here you go: http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/Barombi-Mbo.php

One of the security guards at my prior agency was froim Kumba, Cameroon (the town closest to the lake) and she knew about it, although said it was hard to get to (being a crater)...

Matt
 

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Pray desist and post post post away

Most conversations about these guys are with myself!

Sorry guys - It's more that the forum seems to hang up when I try to post more than a few pics at a time...Matt

An apology? From you?! Enough already. Tear it up - it's what its here for...

Life is so....penetrating. Makes me wonder if the one out in Oregon which I glimpsed from the rim but was unable to explore at the time is similarly "appointed". It is vast and bluest blue and certainly seemed old enough for colonization and divergence to have run its course.
 

dogofwar

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There's only one way to find out!

Matt

Life is so....penetrating. Makes me wonder if the one out in Oregon which I glimpsed from the rim but was unable to explore at the time is similarly "appointed". It is vast and bluest blue and certainly seemed old enough for colonization and divergence to have run its course.
 

Andrewtfw

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What is it about these specific fish that attracted you to want to keep them? There are many WA available now, though most are in the pelvicachromis or nanochromis family or closely related.
 

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Fast breeder reaction

What is it about these specific fish that attracted you to want to keep them? There are many WA available now, though most are in the pelvicachromis or nanochromis family or closely related.

Oh yeah, sure, just encourage him.
 

dogofwar

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I first learned about these guys in Sacramento. Someone in the fish club had received some wild fish (she later sold some and some F1s to me) from a researcher at UC Davis.

There is simply nothing else like them. I was hooked with Stomatepia pindu - jet black, sleek and predatory looking...and this was my jumping off point to learn more about the lake and other species. Imagine that this little lake has so many endemic species. Of course, they're all descendents of some Saratherodon (Tilapia)...but in ~10,000 years they've evolved (specialized) so much.

Some are bi-parental mouthbrooders.

Some are traditional (femal) mouthbrooders

Some are harem spawners

Some are pair mouthbrooders

Some are evolved from natural hybridization

Some have different diets and juvies and adults

And all will be gone forever if the small portion of the only crater where they live is drained for irrigation, drinking water, etc, etc.

Fortunately as naturally specialized as they are in their native habitat(e.g. Pungu primarily eats a native freshwater sponge in the lake), they're really adaptable aquarium fish (tap water, room temp, flakes and pellets).

Matt

What is it about these specific fish that attracted you to want to keep them? There are many WA available now, though most are in the pelvicachromis or nanochromis family or closely related.
 

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Matt, How is aggression on these guys? Comparable to say a peacock? Would they work in a 55? Can you keep more than one species together without them slaughtering each other or interbreeding?
 

dogofwar

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The Stomatepia mariae are probably the most aggressive and they're comparable to a Mozambique Tilapia. Not really aggressive like a Hap or Peacock, but males are just horny and will defend a breeding area. S. mariae and pindu will also eat whatever fish they can fit in their mouths.

The Saratherondon, Pungu and Myaka all seem harmless. I'm keeping S. caroli (linnelli) with much smaller fish and they won't eat them. The Pungu are a little spicier but not nasty. The Myaka are with similar sized sevs and no aggression (other than chasing each other a bit).

I wouldn't keep Barombi Mbo fish (perhaps with the exception of S. mariae) with Haps...and definitely not with mbuna.

Matt
 

STATMATT

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Ah, UCD. Those were the days (2000-2003). Rallies, getting beat up by the police. I guess now instead of beating you up they just pepper spray you in the eyes.
 

dogofwar

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I think I have 1 pindu fry right now. And I think 7 S. caroli that are 1-2" or so. Female pindu holding but they're hard to get to hold to term...

Matt

Cool fish, I'd be interested in Stomatepia pindu if you ever have any available
 
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