fishman13
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Will a breeding pair work in a 40 breeder with valisneria and some pygme cories?
jonclark96
Past CCA President
A 40 breeder is a good size for a pair of convicts but the cories will not last once the convicts breed. Depending on the pair, youay be able to get away with a BN pleco or some fast dithers like giant danios. Most of my pairs will not tolerate tank mates in anything smaller than a 4 foot tank.
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verbal
CCA Members
I think it would be best to pick the pygmy cories or the convicts and start from there for planning the tank.
If you want pygmy cories, then you want a "community cichlid" like rams or apistos. A couple of the calmer west africans might work. Bolivian rams might also be a good option and are typically a little hardier than "normal" rams.
As Jon said, if you want to start with convicts, I think you want tankmates that are a little bigger and more active like barbs, giant danios or other "dither fish".
One thing that might work that is convict-like would be Cryptoheros nanoluteus. I would double check with someone who knows New World cichlids better.
If you want pygmy cories, then you want a "community cichlid" like rams or apistos. A couple of the calmer west africans might work. Bolivian rams might also be a good option and are typically a little hardier than "normal" rams.
As Jon said, if you want to start with convicts, I think you want tankmates that are a little bigger and more active like barbs, giant danios or other "dither fish".
One thing that might work that is convict-like would be Cryptoheros nanoluteus. I would double check with someone who knows New World cichlids better.
jonclark96
Past CCA President
Nanos tend to be on the quieter, shyer side of the central american cichlid spectrum. I have a group of juvies growing out now (around 1"), so I'm not sure how they are when they breed, but my guess is that cories still won't be the best choice.
Nanos are also relatively hard to come by, but they are a CARES species and we should do what we can as hobbyists to keep the species going.
Nanos are also relatively hard to come by, but they are a CARES species and we should do what we can as hobbyists to keep the species going.
dogofwar
CCA Members
Cryptoheros + cories = dead cories
Matt
Matt
fishman13
Members
will a breeding pair of angels work?
jonclark96
Past CCA President
Angels will work in that footprint, but they can be equally aggressive when breeding. If you really want to do a breeding pair and save fry, leave the cories for their own tank.
dogofwar
CCA Members
Pygmy cories are small. Best kept in a tank with other small fish...
Matt
Matt
fishman13
Members
kk Thanks guys
fishman13
Members
Can I do a pair of discus in a 40 breeder?
Tony
Alligator Snapping Turtle/Past Pres
You can. But in order to get a pair, you need to either pay big bucks or start with a group as they cannot easily be sexed, even when adult-sized. You also need to do regular monster water changes.
fishman13
Members
Thanks for stearing me away from discus tony. I will do angles
Tony
Alligator Snapping Turtle/Past Pres
Angels are great, man. Very pretty and easy to breed. Not particularly demanding either. Can be kept with larger tetras and catfish. Good stuff.
fishman13
Members
I used to breed them when i was in middle school.
Tony do you have any angle fish?
Tony
Alligator Snapping Turtle/Past Pres
Not now. I've had a couple here and there, but never really got into them.
verbal
CCA Members
Check with Nagesh(screen name - Enkay). He has a couple of nice angel pairs for sale on the PVAS forum.
fishman13
Members
since I am getting rid of the african cichlids. I could do convicts in one tank and angles in the other.
turfboss
Members
I started with 17 convict juvies ready to mate (since they start that at about 4 months) along with one BN pleco and 3 Corydoras Paleatus and for 6 months they have been fine together - we now have about 40 convicts in a truly overstocked 20H - having removed about 40 others along the way into another 20L. There have been as many as three convict pairs guarding eggs and or raising young continuously - got tired of worrying about feeding the fry and those that survive - do so - the rest - well you know. Having said all that, everyday I check to make sure everyone is OK - that the Cories are still working the bottom of the tank, etc and then when - about one week ago - I was doing a water change I could not find the Cories - moved rocks looking for them - etc (the BN is still there just fine) - the Cories are gone - not a trace - no dead fish - no carcasses - no nothing - just gone overnight (all three of them). So, given the comments above concerning mixing the Convicts and the Cories - till about one week ago I would have said I don't understand why not I sure have not had any problems - but then one day - all gone.
