Cleaning an aquarium

Ading522

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So recently, I bought a used acrylic flat back hexagon 55.. It came with two acrylic sumps, one was just a giveaway.. I'm happy with it although it would need some cleaning and buffing.. The problem I discovered when I was cleaning them out is that one of the sumps seemed to have some kind of oil, I'm guessing motor oil spilled on the bottom.. Now, will I be able to make this aquarium or fish safe? If so, how?

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Frank Cowherd

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It is always the question, when is it safe for fish? It is really not that hard, first check that it is really not a water soluble material that feels like oil. For instance some liquid detergents or shampoos look and feel like oil. If the material foams with water, it is probably a soap or detergent. If it is oil, just add dish washing liquid you would use to clean greasy dishes or pots. Get it clean and rinse and dry and the check to see if you can see any residual material. If so, repeat the cleaning. If not, put in some water and if you get a foam, you need to rinse more. If not, you are ready for fish.

If the fish are expensive or rare or you could not live without, get an inexpensive fish and let him live in the vessel for a day to be sure there is no residual materials that could affect your cherished fish. ANd if you have trouble with that, try using daphnia. Daphnia are used worldwide to check water quality. Put in a bunch of daphnia and if most survive, all is well. If all die, you have a problem. Of course, the water used should be from an existing aquarium that supports live fish.
 

Ading522

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It is always the question, when is it safe for fish? It is really not that hard, first check that it is really not a water soluble material that feels like oil. For instance some liquid detergents or shampoos look and feel like oil. If the material foams with water, it is probably a soap or detergent. If it is oil, just add dish washing liquid you would use to clean greasy dishes or pots. Get it clean and rinse and dry and the check to see if you can see any residual material. If so, repeat the cleaning. If not, put in some water and if you get a foam, you need to rinse more. If not, you are ready for fish.

If the fish are expensive or rare or you could not live without, get an inexpensive fish and let him live in the vessel for a day to be sure there is no residual materials that could affect your cherished fish. ANd if you have trouble with that, try using daphnia. Daphnia are used worldwide to check water quality. Put in a bunch of daphnia and if most survive, all is well. If all die, you have a problem. Of course, the water used should be from an existing aquarium that supports live fish.

Thanks much frank! I thought that cleaning an aquarium with soap is dangerous for fish? The reason why when I get used aquariums, I clean with hit water, vinegar and lemon and a new scrub..one that hasn't been used with any soaps or detergents..? If I use dish soap, how long do I wait to safely introduce fish?

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Frank Cowherd

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To me the key is to use liquid soap, not bar soap or powder detergent. Liquid dish soap is fairly easy to rinse out. If it were not, residual dish soap would give people digestive problems. It is really up to the person doing the cleaning how well it is cleaned and how well it is rinsed. You have to take care to clean and rinse every part of the tank so there are no corners where bad stuff for fish might have been left.

But to be absolutely certain all is OK, that is the reason I suggested using a fish or daphnia to check on water quality.

However, if you clean and rinse well and towel dry, there is little chance that there will be residual dish washing liquid in the tank.
I have, and I have heard speakers say they have washed sponge filters in the clothes washer with detergent. It does a good job of cleaning the sponges and getting out the detergent during the rinse. I did use two rinses and did not use a ton of detergent. And I did this only one time a few years ago. There were no problems. I did about 20 or 25 sponges at once. Now I just squeeze the sponges a number of times in fresh water to clean them and don't care about a bit of dirt coming out of them when placed back in the tank.

You do not have to wait long. As soon as you consider it clean and well rinsed, fill it with water, add some bacterial from a filter from a tank in good shape, or one of the commercial bacterias for quick starting an aquarium, then add a fish or daphnia to check water quality. Wait a day and if all is well, add your other fish.
 

Ading522

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To me the key is to use liquid soap, not bar soap or powder detergent. Liquid dish soap is fairly easy to rinse out. If it were not, residual dish soap would give people digestive problems. It is really up to the person doing the cleaning how well it is cleaned and how well it is rinsed. You have to take care to clean and rinse every part of the tank so there are no corners where bad stuff for fish might have been left.

But to be absolutely certain all is OK, that is the reason I suggested using a fish or daphnia to check on water quality.

However, if you clean and rinse well and towel dry, there is little chance that there will be residual dish washing liquid in the tank.
I have, and I have heard speakers say they have washed sponge filters in the clothes washer with detergent. It does a good job of cleaning the sponges and getting out the detergent during the rinse. I did use two rinses and did not use a ton of detergent. And I did this only one time a few years ago. There were no problems. I did about 20 or 25 sponges at once. Now I just squeeze the sponges a number of times in fresh water to clean them and don't care about a bit of dirt coming out of them when placed back in the tank.

You do not have to wait long. As soon as you consider it clean and well rinsed, fill it with water, add some bacterial from a filter from a tank in good shape, or one of the commercial bacterias for quick starting an aquarium, then add a fish or daphnia to check water quality. Wait a day and if all is well, add your other fish.

I will give it a try..thanks frank!
 

daninmd

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Thanks much frank! I thought that cleaning an aquarium with soap is dangerous for fish? The reason why when I get used aquariums, I clean with hit water, vinegar and lemon and a new scrub..one that hasn't been used with any soaps or detergents..? If I use dish soap, how long do I wait to safely introduce fish?

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I use dish soap to clean all the used tanks I buy. never an issue. I think us aquarists in general are a little bit paranoid about things associated with our tanks. dish soap rinses off very easily. For tougher cleaning jobs such as old SW tanks with tons of coralline algae, I routinely use muriatic acid to clean it up. works like a charm, just rinse out really well, that's all.
 

Ading522

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I use dish soap to clean all the used tanks I buy. never an issue. I think us aquarists in general are a little bit paranoid about things associated with our tanks. dish soap rinses off very easily. For tougher cleaning jobs such as old SW tanks with tons of coralline algae, I routinely use muriatic acid to clean it up. works like a charm, just rinse out really well, that's all.

wow! really? that is a nice fact to know and would help me alot..thanks!!!
 

daninmd

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wow! really? that is a nice fact to know and would help me alot..thanks!!!

it basically dissolves it right off. I either fill the tank and add the acid, or I sometimes will put the acid in a sponge and saturate the algae. then I can usually just wipe it right off after soaking a little bit.
 

ezrk

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wow! really? that is a nice fact to know and would help me alot..thanks!!!


I also occasionally use a muriatic (i.e. hydrochloric) acid on my tops especially. I use a slightly more diluted version I bought sold as a reef glass cleaner.

I regularly use household vinegar (i.e. acetic acid) on my glass tops as well.
 
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