mscichlid
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If so, what are there requirements as far as water and food? When you buy them are you supposed to get pairs or not?
Are these Julidochromis Dickfeldi?
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Pat Kelly
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Hmm. Looks like them to me.
I always had a group of 6 and bred them years ago on public water.
I know it would have been better with harder, higher ph water but never had
any problems. Course that was like 25 years ago in my old house.
I always had a group of 6 and bred them years ago on public water.
I know it would have been better with harder, higher ph water but never had
any problems. Course that was like 25 years ago in my old house.
longstocking
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Yup... easy to breed and keep. Swim kinda like salt water fish.
Water.... I just keep them like all my other tangs. ph 8.2 ( baking soda )...
Food... anything
Omnivores.
By 6 and let them pair off.... but sometimes you can get trios.
Water.... I just keep them like all my other tangs. ph 8.2 ( baking soda )...
Food... anything
Omnivores.By 6 and let them pair off.... but sometimes you can get trios.
dogofwar
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I kept these guys a few years ago... A started with 6 little ones in a 2'x2'x1' tank decorated with some sand and a couple of piles of rocks (limestone for buffering if I remember).
I just used tap water (which was about 7.6 and medium hard). At a couple of inches, two of the fish paired off and took control of the biggest rock pile. i got rid of the other 4 fish...and before you know it, there are little julies peeking out of the rock pile.
Matt
I just used tap water (which was about 7.6 and medium hard). At a couple of inches, two of the fish paired off and took control of the biggest rock pile. i got rid of the other 4 fish...and before you know it, there are little julies peeking out of the rock pile.
Matt
mscichlid
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I think they are beautiful. But will have to get used to adding stuff to the water instead of taking it out.
minifoot77
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i have lots of these franny http://community-2.webtv.net/VIP_Aquatics2/Julidochromis/
mscichlid
Founder
Those are beautiful too. How do you keep them? You know, the regimen for maintaining their water parameters and such.
minifoot77
Members
tap water no additives and lots of rocks with some java fern on top they are in a 30l and the only chemical they see is prime
mscichlid
Founder
What is your pH and hardness?
minifoot77
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7.2 ph and idk what the hardness is the limestone(?) probably helps....
longstocking
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Franny if you go with TR Julidochromis you could probably get away with doing nothing. But I would add crushed coral or lime stone rocks to help keep the kh up.
What is your tap water after 24 hours hun? That would tell us a lot.
Julidochromis are hardy tangs... so a drop in ph would probably only mean loss of color. There are other tangs I wouldn't suggest chancing this with but the three tangs I know you are looking at would probably be fine.
But on the other hand... it's so easy to just add BS. How much depends on your tap water... but typically 1 tablesoon per 10 gallons. Buy it cheap at cost co ( if you aren't a member I could pick some up for you ) and you will be good for a year
What is your tap water after 24 hours hun? That would tell us a lot.
Julidochromis are hardy tangs... so a drop in ph would probably only mean loss of color. There are other tangs I wouldn't suggest chancing this with but the three tangs I know you are looking at would probably be fine.
But on the other hand... it's so easy to just add BS. How much depends on your tap water... but typically 1 tablesoon per 10 gallons. Buy it cheap at cost co ( if you aren't a member I could pick some up for you ) and you will be good for a year
mscichlid
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my pH is 6.8 out of the tap (for now as it fluctuates depending on season)
after aeration it is 6.4
my hardness/conductivity out of tap (for now as it fluctuates depending on season)is 256 @ 77 degrees F
after aeration it is 250 @ 77 degrees F
after aeration it is 6.4
my hardness/conductivity out of tap (for now as it fluctuates depending on season)is 256 @ 77 degrees F
after aeration it is 250 @ 77 degrees F
Charlutz
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Yeah, at those numbers adding some baking soda would give you some security. Julies don't need much -- after they pair off. Just some nooks and crannies to hide and breed in. They like to dig and get in tight spaces so stack the rocks on the bottom tank glass.
Do you have the article I wrote for The Biotope on my transcriptus? I submitted it just after the last printed issue ran, so not sure it ever got published.
Do you have the article I wrote for The Biotope on my transcriptus? I submitted it just after the last printed issue ran, so not sure it ever got published.
longstocking
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Yeah with those numbers you are a little to0 low. Add the BS and they wil look much better! I'm pretty sure they would look like crap under 7.0
I do know I let mine drop once below 7.0 and they looked horrible to say the least. No deaths but they didn't look happy or healthy.
I do know I let mine drop once below 7.0 and they looked horrible to say the least. No deaths but they didn't look happy or healthy.
mscichlid
Founder
Charlie. I'll look up the article...
What numbers should I aspire to achieve?
What numbers should I aspire to achieve?
Charlutz
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The baking soda will bring the ph to 8.2-8.4 pretty easily, though I am not working with water out of the tap that is that low. How is the hardness of your tap water? Mine is extremely soft and I can pretty easily bring it to 17 kh with 1/4 cup of baking soda per 50-60 gallons. Not sure what number that translates to on the German scale. I think you're good once you get above 10-12 kh and stay below 22-25 kh. They are pretty tolerant. I don't mess with the gh anymore. Used to use epsom salt to bring that up, but had some issues with it and after consulting with Sarah decided to simplify and drop it, as well as marine salt. Just a little bit of baking soda and they'll be very happy. Works for all my tangs.
longstocking
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My personal preferance for the numbers:
ph 8.2-8.4
kh 15-17
Going too high on the kh can cause them to lose color as well... and not breed as often. So try to stay below 20 or so IMO.
If you don't already know this... BS cannot bring your ph any higher than 8.2 but it can sky rocket your kh .... so basicially keep an eye on your kh before you get your routine down. Once you've got everything figured out... all you need to do is test your kh once in a while. No need to test ph unless something is wrong
As Charlie stated I don't mess with my gh. I used to... and figured out that it is really not neccessary. All it did was cost me money and stress the fish out when I messed things up with the salt.
I don't want the ph meter for tangs lol... it's the plecos
ph 8.2-8.4
kh 15-17
Going too high on the kh can cause them to lose color as well... and not breed as often. So try to stay below 20 or so IMO.
If you don't already know this... BS cannot bring your ph any higher than 8.2 but it can sky rocket your kh .... so basicially keep an eye on your kh before you get your routine down. Once you've got everything figured out... all you need to do is test your kh once in a while. No need to test ph unless something is wrong
As Charlie stated I don't mess with my gh. I used to... and figured out that it is really not neccessary. All it did was cost me money and stress the fish out when I messed things up with the salt.
I don't want the ph meter for tangs lol... it's the plecos
mscichlid
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I'll keep you all posted on my decision on the species. But I think it will be a julidochromis, Telmatochromisa, the Lepidiolamprologus hecquii and the Lepidiolamprologus kendalli .
